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You'd think he could get a name right wouldn't you?
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 | | BigCol - 2009-11-13 21:11:07 | | | Whoever is at fault here Jenny, be it her, him or his staff, that letter should never have left that office in that condition. Whatever came afterwards is media hype, but the fact that the letter left his office as such is what caused the fuss and where the problem lay in the first place. And if he does find a cure for cancer within the next 24 hours believe me I'll vote for him in the next election and suggest his name for a sainthood. But I won't forgive him or his office for this. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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 | | Hi_ImJenny - 2009-11-13 20:49:36 | | | After much deep thought and reading of all the papers I could lay my hands on, I've come to a fairer view. Although I think it is right that Brown write to Mrs Janes it was unfortunate his spelling and grammar wasn't up to scratch, and yes, I'm going to make an allowance for his sight but still, recording the phone call, for me just shows where the situation was heading. It does seem to have blown over but it was going to turn out like so many others, and this is where I'm having to be cruel to be kind - she would sell her story, record the phone call and cash in. Perhaps he has goofed, and yes he has but still Gordon Brown could find a cure for cancer, revolutionise the economy and make politics much more open and honest all in the space of 24 hours and even then people will find something to find fault in. Unfortuantely, his past poor judgements have led to this, whatever he does and wherever he goes, until 2010 Gordon Brown will never be a successful PM. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | BigCol - 2009-11-11 19:51:41 | | | I hear what your saying Jenny about the recording of the phone call etc, but people don’t die in dirty hospitals or dangerous street in the defence of the Queen and country. It’s his duty to write to relatives under these circumstances and the duty of him and his office to get their facts right. Nobody’s picking on him just for the sake of it. He put his foot in it and has to answer. To my mind he makes matters worse in his attempts to excuse himself by saying he wouldn’t have done it deliberately. I should hope not. Sorry if you think it’s all a bit out of proportion but he goofed and goofed badly. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | Hi_ImJenny - 2009-11-11 19:38:49 | | | Will people receive letters if relatives die in dirty hospitals? Will people receive letters if relatives die on the dangerous roads and in the streets? Surely, he can't write a letter for everyone but the fact he took the time to actually write to her, surely that's something to show your son did not die in vain and that his death is acknowledged. Responsible to a certain extent, Brown can't win in any situation. If he hadn't have written then it's likely he'd be attacked for that. I just feel sorry for this poor boy at the centre of it - would he have wanted this? And to record that phone call certainly shows something about Mrs Janes; grieving I know, I can't begin to comprehend what she's going through but to record what the PM believed a private conversation defeats the object...it's just a sorry state of affairs and in my humble opinion, The Sun have forgotten that a young soldier has died and is caught up in the middle of this. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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 | | MasterSignwriter - 2009-11-11 14:32:43 | | | @ Hoodie, i did just put a post up trying to highlight that, but it didnt quite come out that way. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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 | | Hoodie - 2009-11-11 13:03:05 | | | I thinks its fair to say if he started shitting a cure for cancer he wouldnt be popular.
Its common sense not to send out a letter of that nature with mistakes. I do think its a good thing that it was handwritten, typing with a signature is much less personal.
Re it being blown out of all proportion she knows she has an audience and is using it - at the end of the day people who want to make a point about the govt or the war, valid or not, often dont have the attention of the worlds media. She does and she is using it - good on her I say !
At the end of the day there is a lot of talk on here about what should be done over lots of subjects, often political - im suprised no one can see its all just media manipulation. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | Hi_ImJenny - 2009-11-10 18:26:25 | | | Blimey, can't Brown do anything right in this country? I personally, can't comment on the situation as I'm not a parent or had much life experience but surely, she'd appreciate the fact that he's acknowledged her son has died for Queen and country. I'm on the PM's side and don't care if that's not the done thing. He's blind in one eye and 2/3 of the other, and also the fact he phoned her shows he wants to sort it out. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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 | | ellen - 2009-11-10 08:47:37 | | | Writing to bereaved families personally is a nice idea but he really needs to do it properly and put effort into it otherwise it will do more harm than good. I know he is busy but it really does not take much time to read a letter through and as Col says if necessary ask someone to double check it before sending | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | BigCol - 2009-11-10 05:33:21 | | | Not sure that’s a good idea GV. The last thing I’d want at a time like that is some fawning politician knocking on my door trying to pretend they were sincere. Not very practical either if a war gets to the point of escalation which this one could do. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | BigCol - 2009-11-09 20:35:10 | | | In answer to your question Bill, our defenders of Queen and country clearly can't rely on the representative of the country to string two words together, so maybe the Queen could lend a hand. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | Hoodie - 2009-11-09 19:46:02 | | | Busy ? we are all busy, the man has set himself up for the highest profile job in the country, if he cant get a dead british soldiers name right in a letter, then its a very poor effort. Mind you you can get A*'s with worse, so at least its consistent with Teaching policy. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | BigCol - 2009-11-09 18:23:38 | | | Sorry Hoppy I can’t agree on the overreaction bit. To write the letters himself rather than get an assistant to do it is no more than the way it should be, so I don’t think he should be applauded for it. Everyone in his office seems to be excusing him for his bad handwriting and bad eyesight. If those faults are so well known, where was his assistant to check out the mistakes that are obviously so commonplace? It doesn’t matter how busy anyone in his office is, mistakes on letters of this nature cannot be allowed to happen because, rightly or wrongly, it leads us down a road of doubting his sorrow and gratitude. Well it does me anyway. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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 | | pjhoppy - 2009-11-09 18:06:23 | | | I cannot stand Gordon Brown at any price. I do think however that there has been a total over reaction to the errors in this letter and i do question the motives in taking such a letter to the Sun. The fact that he actually writes the letter in the first place rather than get some assistant to type it is a good thing. Take into account just how busy the man must be I am not surprised mistakes are made. I prefer to accept the letter in the spirit it was intended ie an expression of sorrow and gratitude. The fact that he writes in big marker pen might just be a reflection of his impaired sight. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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 | | NotGandalf - 2009-11-09 17:58:45 | | | Archbishop Mandelson said today "We all know that Gordon's handwriting and spelling are atrocious" .... NO WE BLOODY DON'T! .. And if we did - we wouldn't have voted for him. Oh, yeah, sorry forgot. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | BigCol - 2009-11-09 13:21:42 | | | Mr Broun has attempted to justify himself today by saying "I do not think anyone will believe that I write letters with any intent to cause offence." Of course we don't Gorden, but it's still the unintended offence that's so bloody offensive. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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| | NotGandalf - 2009-11-09 09:50:38 | | | This letter couldn't have been more disrespectful if he had written it on bog roll. Jeremy Clarkson was right - He is not fit for purpose. | | Nod+ (0) | Report | Follow |
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